Selection of colours

For some models the used colours were entered. These are listed here in dependence of countries and aeras.
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Austria-Hungary Pre1914 kuk Marine Bis 1900/1902 Victorian Style: schwarzer Rumpf, weiße Aufbauten, gelbe Schornsteine
1902-1913 'Montecoccolin': Olivgrün über alles. Die Farbe wurde für alle sichtbaren Teile des Schiffs verwendet: Rumpf, Stahldecks, Masten, Brücken, Aufbauten, Dampf- und Motorbarkassen und Segel. Die großen Beiboote wurden innen mit einem dunkelgrün gestrichen, die kleinen Beiboote waren innen weiß. Anker und Ketten waren aus blankem Stahl, der mit Leinöl geschützt wurde. Die Rettungsringe waren bis 1910 weiß, danach weiß-rot-weiß.
Quelle: (1007)(1008)
Modell SMS Erzherzog Karl auf Modellversium siehe http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/26-schiffe-ww1/15042-sms-erzherzog-karl-wsw-modellbau.html
Austria-Hungary time(1885-1905) kuk Marine War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: As with other European fleets, a Black hull with White or Silver Grey (883) upperworks and funnels. Unlike the rest of the upperworks and funnels, the ventilators, gun barrels and masts were commonly painted black like the hull. Turret tops seemed to be dark grey. Wartime: Reported by Jane's as being Sea Green. The best combination for this seems to be a 1:1 mixture of Medium Sea Grey (870) and Grey Green (866), although straight Grey Green also works while giving a greener but darker appearance.
Austria-Hungary WWI kuk Marine 1913 'Hausian' mit SMS Radetzky getestet und dann komplett übernommen: helles Blaugrau.
Ausgenommen Oberseiten der Geschützturme, alle Dachflächen, Stahldecks und die Schornsteinkränze – diese wurden dunkelgrau lackiert. Beiboote auch hellblaugrau, einige schwarzer Unterwasseranstrich der Beiboote. Ab 1914 wurden Suchlichter, der Fockmast oberhalb der Schornsteinkränze, die Schornsteinkränze und der Hauptmast oberhalb der Suchlichtplattform schwarz gestrichen. 1916/17 wurde der Fockmast und der Hauptmast über der unteren Rah hellgrau gestrichen. Alle Poller wurden dunkelgrau lackiert.
Der Wasserpass rosa, nach März 1915 dunkelgrau. Unterwasser roter Rostschutz grundiert und danach Kupfergrün bestrichen. Im Verlauf des Krieges graue Schutzfarbe
SANKT GEORG und mglw. auch die ERZHERZOG FERDINAND MAX, die ERZHERZOG FRIEDRICH und die ERZHERZOG KARL hatten hellgraue Linoleumdecks, alle anderen Holzdecks
Quelle: (1007)
China time(1885-1905) China War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: Black hull with white upperworks and ochre funnels. Wartime: Same hull color with the white and ochre painted over with neutral grey (992)
China afterwar PLA 054A++ Jiangkai II 576 Daqing hellgrau 76, mittelgrau 57, blaugrau
Columbia time(1983-heute) Almirante Padilla FS 1500 hellgrau, blaugrau
France time(1885-1905) Frankreich War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: Hull is black with upperworks and funnels either silver grey (883) or ochre (913). Boundaries between hull and upperworks colors tended to vary widely, some placed very high on the ship at spar deck edge, and some lower at main deck edge.. Best to find photos of actual ships. Wartime: Unknown, probably a Dark Sea Grey (991) or Medium Sea Grey (870) all over. Some sources quote French ships having a distinctly greenish grey, which is supported by some builder's models still in existence.
France WW2 Frankreich Marine wk2 Zitat Antwort Aryeh Wetherhorn:
the Atlantic raiding squadron used a darker shade of grey, and reverted to grey number 1 (the French designation for light grey) after the armistice. Decks were wood.
Recognition and heraldry marks were also very interesting. Tricolors were painted on turrets and gun shields, always with blue towards the bow. Most ships carried the tricolor on turrets B and X, but the 2 cruisers in the Far East painted it on all 4 turrets. Destroyers followed the same system,but there were variations. The torpedo boat division in Bizerte painted stripes on the forecastle similar to those used by the Italian fleet. Destroyer hull numbers were built around a division number (e.g. X!0 or T5) with the addition of a sequence number based on the seniority of the captain within each division. The hull numbers were red, but each division also carried colored bands on a funnel according to the division number. Cruisers also used funnel bands to indicate their position within each cruiser division. The senior ship usually had no bands, but the next two carried one or two bands, again, according to seniority. The colors of the bands were standard. Cruiser division 1 used white, 2 black, 3 yellow. 4 green and 5 red. Destroyers had more division and so they also used blue, and had one or two bands depending upon division numbers. Some ships also put a tricolor on the sides of a deckhouse. A few submarines painted a tricolor on the sail (conning tower) and one carried the tricolor across the saddle tanks down to the waterline.
Credit: (1006)
GB time(1885-1905) GB War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: Black hull with white upperworks and turrets and ochre funnels and masts. Great Britain appears to have adopted overall grey peacetime colors very early (maybe by 1903 or so). The black hull often had a narrow white band just below its upper edge, all the way around the ship. Sometimes (rarely, seen once on HMS Nile) the black was carried up onto the upperworks as high as the edge of the spar deck, making the turrets black instead of white. Ships on tropical station would usually have white hull with white or ochre upperworks and ochre funnels. Wartime: Dark Sea Grey (991) all over (except maybe lifeboats, which can still be painted white with brown wash on top).
GB WWI|{{class}}|Interwar|WW2 HMS Shakespeare Deck Braun Revell 381, sonst hellgrau Revell 76
GB WW2 GB https://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk/pages/british-royal-navy-colour-schemes
GB afterwar HMS Ajax F114 Ikara Deck Revell Seegrün 48
Germany time(1885-1905) Deutsch War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: In European waters the hull can be one of several possible schemes: Medium Sea Grey hull (870) with Silver Grey upperworks (883), or silver grey all over. Also, Silver Grey hull with White upperworks would be another possibility. Other variations seem to have included white turrets (on the Brandenburgs) and dark grey turret tops on the newer battleships. For tropical service cruisers would have their hulls white with upperworks painted Ochre (913). Unknown how their battleships were painted for tropical service, which would apply only to the Brandenburgs. Wartime: Unknown, probably Silver Grey (883) all over, which is what we use. An extra note on German battleships, aerial photos indicate that their decks were noticeable darker, so a medium brown or tan-earth would probably be more accurate than using the light deck tan typical on other ships.
Germany WW2 Sperrbrecher 13 Minerva 1943 Deck blaugrau 79, holz392
Rumpf weiß, hellblau 49, Lifecolor US Navy Blue 5N UA626, schwarz
Germany WW2|{{class}}|WW2|afterwar Z37 Revell Grau 57|Revell 78|Revell 79
Germany time(1985-1990,1991-1996,1997-heute) Tarantul I 1241RE Hiddensee Hellgrau Revell 76 Deck Farngrün 360
Italy time(1885-1905) Italien War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: Typically a Black hull with White or Silver Grey (883) upperworks. The transition between black and white could be along the edge of the main deck, or sometimes down the middle of the amidships bulwarks/casemates. The funnels and masts were commonly painted ochre, and in some cases - such as vessels like Italia or Andrea Doria - the lower half of the funnels would be white and the upper half would be ochre. In vessels with superheavy guns, the gun barrels were sometimes painted black or dark grey. Wartime: Unknown, probably Dark Sea Grey (991) all over.
Japan time(1885-1905) Japan War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: Black hull, funnels and ventilators with white upperworks and turrets. Masts would be black or have black bases and ochre tops. One to three white I.D. bands around upper 1/3 of funnels. Wartime: Neutral grey (992) all over with top 20% of funnel black. Some larger vessels had their mast tops painted black down to a point even with the black funnel bands.
Japan Interwar|WW2 Notoro IJN Seaplane Tender Rumpf blaugrau Revell 79, Deck Revell Holzbraun 382, Bambusverdeck des Hangars Beige
Romania WW2|afterwar|{{class}}|Interwar|WW2 Regele Ferdinand Deck Holzbraun Revell 381 + washing, sonst sehr helles grau Revell 371
SU time(1885-1905) SU War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: Most ships had white hulls with ochre funnels and a black band around the top 25% of each funnel. Wartime: The Baltic Fleet – including those ships which sailed to Tsushima – had black hulls with ochre funnels and a black band around the top 25% of each funnel.
Early War Port Arthur fleet cinnamon as a low quality black painted over peacetime colors. One part chocolat, one part black gray.
Late war Port Arthur fleet 2-tone khaki upperworks and olive-drab hull. For smaller cruisers khaki overall
Wladiwostok cruisers olive-drab overall
SU WWI|Interwar|WW2|{{class}}|afterwar Krasnaya Abkhasia Revell Grau 57
SU afterwar OSA II hellgrau, deck rostrot
SU afterwar Petr Velikiy 1994 (Pjotr Weliki, Peter der Große) Laut Revell: Blaugrau 79, Deckrot 50% holzbraun 382 50% Ziegelrot 37
mglw Deck Umsetzung in rostrot
Spain time(1885-1905) Spanien War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): Peacetime: Most ships had a black hull with white upperworks (superstructure) and ochre funnels. Some light vessels were seen to have all white hulls and upperworks with ochre funnels.
Turkey Pre1914|WWI|Interwar|WW2|afterwar|time(1913-heute) Nusret Pale khaki
Turkey WWI SMS Weissenburg (1894) / türk. Torgud Reis Khakibraun 86
USA time(1885-1905) USA War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html(1124): During peacetime US ships tended to have white hulls with ochre upperworks and funnels. The boundary between the white and ochre was different in different ships, and often passed horizontally across major features, especially gun turrets. So that the top half of a turret might be painted ochre and the bottom half painted white, especially in the lower aft turrets. Gun barrels often painted black. During war time they were painted Medium Sea Grey (870) all over (except maybe lifeboats, which can still be painted white with brown wash on top).
USA WWI|Interwar|WW2|time(1917-1945) USS Allen DD-66 weiß, himmelblau 59, Lifecolor Navy Blue, schwarz
USA time(1918) US Destroyers 1918 On my question after the colour of US Destroyers end of WWI (specifically USS Allen DD-66), Aryeh Wetherhorn answered:
This pattern, or close variants of it, was used on several US destroyers. Early admiralty designs for US destroyers used a variety of colors, including pink, mauve, buff, yellow, and others. The US adaptation of this design called for only Black, White, #3 Blue, and #2 Blue-grey. Later Admiralty designs often followed the US choice of colors. There appears to have been good communication between the offices on opposite sides of the Atlantic. The British objected to pure white, and the Americans then substituted a toned down color called Grey-White. At the same time, the Admiralty dropped some of their brighter colors in favor of the the American basic 4 color palette. but that, too was subject occasional, or even frequent, additions or substitutions. I think you could use the basic US colors without feeling you were going too far afield.
USA WW2 USS Crossbill AMc-9 1941 Offiziell alle US Aux Measure 14 ab 1942: vertikal Ocean Gray, Horizontal Deck Blue, Masten etc oiberhalb der Aufbauten Haze Gray. Allerdings auf den Bildern von Amc-9 eindeutig heller, daher vertikal komplett in hellgrau bemalt
USA WW2 USA generell siehe http://www.shipcamouflage.com/ Speziell:
Life Rafts wurden auf dem Schiff in Hintergrundfarbe gestrichen, also z.Bsp. auf horizontalen Flächen liegend Deck Blue.
USA WW2|afterwar USS Chicago CG-11 ex CA-136 hellgrau, blaugrau, karminrot 36
USA WW2|afterwar USS Gearing FRAM hellgrau, blaugrau
USA time(1941) USA BB in Pearl Harbour 7.12.41 California MS-1 no question.
Nevada painting out of MS-1/5 as time allows.
Maryland MS-12 pattern in old colors, 5-D hull, older very dark 5-O upperworks, 5-L tops.
Oklahoma unknown for attack day but had been in MS-1/5 as late as October 1941.
Tennessee probably MS-1A substituting 5-S for 5-D, painted by Ships Force with no 5-H interlayer.
West Virginia painting out of MS-1, hull was 5-D, upperworks a patchwork of colors consistent with fleet order allowing vessel COs to use the newer paints in various combinations on the upperworks until the next yard period. When raised she does show zinc chromate and red lead patches, again in compliance with fleet orders to only use ZC and red lead for corrosion control until repairs completed in drydock.
Pennsylvania probably MS-1.
Arizona one high quality B&W film shot the afternoon of Dec. 7 show her aft turrets and hull to be too light for 5-D, this film starts at AZ's stern and continues down the battleline to CA, shot from a small boat, 35mm. One snippet of color film shot from a small boat within a day or two of the attacks shows her aft turrets and hull to be blue. I am not hazarding a guess as to which blue as it is light enough to be the darkest 5-S on the Snyder & Short chip set but could also be 5-N.
Fleet orders to be aware of for the time period:
For graded schemes defined in SHIPS-2 Rev.1 5-L to be used in lieu of 5-H for light structures and pole masts until stocks depleted or sufficient 5-H available.
When repainting from darker schemes such as MS-1 or MS-4 YARD FORCE must use 5-H interlayer to prevent bleed through of darker paints. SHIPS FORCE not required to use 5-H interlayer, COs discretion depending on stocks available.
Modified MS-2 called for hulls to remain 5-D (previous fleet order to ships to retain only enough 5-D for one complete repaint of the HULL only) with the upperworks to be repainted as needed into the new colors at the CO's discretion.
All ships sitting on the bottom to only use zinc chromate or red lead for corrosion control purposes until raised and repaired in drydock. Use of camouflage paints specifically forbidden.
Credits: Roland Thompson, Researcher. In a statement in Camouflage Group in Facebook
USA afterwar USS Robert E. Peary ( FF-1073 ) hellgrau, blaugrau

Aircraft

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Argentina WW2|afterwar Fiat G55 B Argentinien Revell Hellgrau 76 als meine Interpretation für L40/41 (Grundierung) oder L40/52 (Decklack) laut Ullmann
Chile WW2|afterwar F80C Shooting Star Chile Revell Braun 85|Revell Grün 67|Revell Grau 57|Revell Hellblau 49
Chile afterwar Sea Vampire T.22 Chile Revell Sand 17|Revell Braun 381|Revell Hellblau 49
Condor Legion WW2 Me109E-1 Spanien Revell 75
GB WW2|afterwar Gloster Meteor F.Mk.1 EE227 Trent (Turboprop) Revell 57|Revell 69
Germany Interwar Bü 182 C Kornett Revell Hellgrau 76 als meine Interpretation für L40/41 (Grundierung) oder L40/52 (Decklack) laut Ullmann
Germany Interwar Hs123 A-1 Lt.Hamann Revell Steingrau 75|Revell Lederbraun 84|Revell Grüngrau 67
Germany WW2 Fw190 D-13/R11 Hellblau Revell 49|Himmelblau Revell 59|Grau Revell 57|Hellgrün Lifecolor RLM82|Braunviolett (Grün) Lifecolor RLM 81|Spinner Revell Laubgrün 364
Germany WW2 Nakajima E8N1 Dave Revell Hellblau 49|Revell 57 Grau|Revell 67 Grüngrau
Japan time(1942-1945) Japan gelbe Vorderkanten dienen der ID durch Flak, Verordnung 12. Sep 1942, beobachtet ab Okt 1942
Lithuania Interwar|WW2 Letov S-20L Revell Frangrün 360|Revell Nato-Oliv 46|Revell Alu
Mexico WW2|afterwar A-24B Banshee (Dauntless) Vallejo 13 Yellow Olive
Mexico afterwar T33 Aztec Knight Vallejo 17 Russian Green
Slovakia afterwar MiG21MF Slovakian Fishbed J Revell Hellbrau 76|Revell Weiß 04|Revell Schwar/Panzergrau 07/78. Cocpit: Revell 49 mit Tropfen hellgrün
Spain WW2 He 112 B-0 Spanien Revell Steingrau 75|Revell Lederbraun 84|Revell Grüngrau 67
USA WW2 TP-39Q-5 Revell Grau 57|Vallejo Model Air 043 Olive Drab

Ground Equipment

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Belgium WW2 Vickers T13B2 Revell 46 Nato-Oliv
GB Interwar|WW2 Cruiser Mk I A9 Revell beige 89|Revell Himmelblau 59|Revell Bronzegrün 65
GB Interwar|WW2 Cruiser Mk I A9CS Khakigrün aus Revell Revell beige 89|Revell Himmelblau 59|Revell Bronzegrün 65
Germany WW2 Deutsche Panzer Details Feuerlöscher außen: Schwarz mit gelbem Schild oder hellgrau mit schwarzem Schild, ab 43-45 Ocker mit gelbem Schild
Germany afterwar Flak Rheinmetall 20mm Revell 42 Gelboliv
Germany afterwar Jagdpanzer Kanone 90mm Revell 42 Gelboliv
Germany afterwar T-55 AM NVA Bronzegrün
Germany afterwar Unimog U1300 4x4 Revell 42 Gelboliv
Germany afterwar|time(1985) Bundeswehr Flecktarn neu Bronzegrün (RAL 6031, Revell 65) bildet die Grundfarbe. Teerschwarz (RAL 9021, Revell 06) und Lederbraun (RAL 8027, Revell 84)(1005)
Hungary WW2 Turan III 44M Revell Olivgrün 361
Iraq time(1991) T-55 Enigma AK Dunkelgelb, Revell Afrikabraun, Revell Beige. Weitere Schattierung Revell Khaakigrün, Revell Rostrot, Revell Lederbraun, Pigmente aus Jax-Kreide Orange, Schwarz. Kettenmischung Panzergrau, Schwarz, Eisen, Braun
Poland Interwar|WW2 TKS 20 mm Rostrot, Sand, Graugrün 67
SU WW2 T-37 Amphibious Tank Revell Bronzegrün 65
SU WW2 Russian Uniforms https://balagan.info/ww2-painting-guide-russian-infantry
SU afterwar T-55 Syrien 1973 Revell Sand, Granitgrau (dunkelgrün), Lifecolor US Navy Deckblue
USA Interwar|WW2 M2 Medium Tank Mr. Color Olive Drab Spray, Vallejo Olive Drab
USA WW2|afterwar M5A1 Late Revell Nato-Oliv 46

More Info

Ship Camouflage Behind the Scenes in https://camoupedia.blogspot.com/2018/01/lindell-t-bates-ship-camouflage-behind.html?m=1
The latewar colors in https://theprofilepaintshop.blogspot.com/2014/03/barracuda-studios-bf109g-10-erla-decals.html - interesting thesis, if true or not.
USN camouflage in http://www.shipcamouflage.com/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_ship_camouflage_measures_of_the_United_States_Navy
Statements from Mal Wright: https://thomo.coldie.net/2008/02/20/colour-schemes-of-ww1-warships/
Camo in different scenes: http://forumini.boards.net/thread/460/ode-torpmans-ships-week

References

References(1005) http://www.panzerbaer.de/colours/a_relaunch/bw_kpz_leopard_2a5.htm
(1006) http://www.facebook.com/groups/1938148576493719/permalink/2157966904511884/
(1007)a b https://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php/topic,1871.msg28116.html#msg28116
(1008) http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/26-schiffe-ww1/15042-sms-erzherzog-karl-wsw-modellbau.html
(1124)a b c d e f g h i j War Times Journal http://www.wtj.com/store/index_paint_guide_hist-paint.html


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green: Very good source, only very few errors
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orange: Good source, some errors
red: Source contains some true facts. All facts need to be checked.

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